Following on the previous post “being in but not off the church” James raises a really interesting question about wether we need to wait in a desert place for the the reframed paradigm of church. There are some really interesting links with the desert fathers, and the space and time this gave culture and church to shift. Are we working/thinking too much about emerging church? Do we actually need to retreat to a desert place rather than engage? Or could it be argued that church has actually been in the desert for decades?Reindeer Games buy