Pirates, orthodox heritics and mission

I have been following the discussion between Pete and Richard and in the process Pete suggests he would rather be “critiqued for not going far enough!”. For some time I have been thinking that actually he does not go far enough. (but having said that I am struggling to articulate why but hear goes)

I really enjoy Pete and Kesters stuff but the way they seem to construct their arguments reinforces and appears to be rooted in a dualist way of being. It has been great how Pete has brought new dialogical partners to the conversation, and particularly voices outside the church, but often could be seen as reconciling a sacred secular divide. (How not to speak of God is an important contribution and the reason it is needed is because it highlights how our language and approach reinforces dualism)

In response to Andys comment on the previous post i think another facet that is missing is about the difference between contextualisation and inculturation. This was a key issue for church on the edge. Robert Schreiter sees inculturation as “the dynamic relation between the Christian message and culture or cultures; an insertion of the Christian life into a culture; an ongoing process of reciprocal and critical insertion and assimilation between them”. The emphasis being the reciprocal nature that allows the process to question our current assumptions (answers) about what church and mission is.

So rather than seeing the community we interact with as another dialogical partner, we value the anti-thesis of the local community and adopt such a powerless position that we allow both messages (truths) to change. When we dialogue in a more abstract or theoretical way the process seems more about contextualisation to me that itself is rooted in a false dualist distinction. Dialogue outside of the missional community approach is Global and so will often be about reconciling the sacred/secular. However if we accept that the moment we engage with the other locally g-d is there then we have the potential for a non dualist glocal conversation that may help us really move on.

When I read that back I think it wont make sense to many people but when I asked James how progress he suggested we need to feel our way forward in the non dualist landscape so pulling together a nice logical argument has been hard sorry ????????? ??? ??????? ????? ??????? ?????? ???? ????????? ?????

Simply complex

Rohr talks about how Jesus asked people to follow him 17 times but never once to worship him. For years I have wondered what it is to live your life as a life of worship. We get so tied up with the worship question. Imagine the church service where we simply ask the complex words follow Jesus

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, and the worship that would flow.

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Holy Thursday

So much starts to happen as the week begins to come its climax. In the church calender the washing of the Disciples’ Feet, the Last Supper, sweating blood in the garden and the betrayal by Judas is remembered. We go from the highs through the lows to rumblings again that something is going on.

Roles inverted, the leader who kneels,
questions unanswered, as the cup passes round
Roles unexpected, the leader who bleeds to the ground
Answers rejected, a new future peels
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Holy Monday

The church calender (depending on which denomination) highlights today as fig monday when the withering of fig tree is read and remembered in the light of the events that will follow later this week. Thinking on this the fig tree seems fit not because of the historic judgement interpritations but in the aftermath of Palm Sunday with its jubilation and shouts, the sense of anti climax or what next. the withering of expectation after a day of celebration and hope, perhaps preparing the disciples for the seemingly anti climax of the cross.

After the waving and songs of hope
After the ride without any pope
After the noise and after the shouts
Came the monday, the monday of doubts.

Holy Tuesday remembers the parable of the 10 virgins perhaps because hope and vigliance was needed

After the doubts and the aprehension
they slowly remembered with expection
After the conversations and the reminiscing
Hope was rekindled for a new beginining

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Holy Wednesday or spy wednesday is the day when the church remembers Judus first arranging the betrayal

The fire was small and the light grew dim
At least one thought the future looked very grim
Dashed expections and a misunderstood theme
followed the mumbles, followed the scheme

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just chatting to Jonny about the church on the edge project and our approach of being church together with young people who are not “believers” and he used the language of being church on the way, which I thought a great way of describing it.

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