Post modernity and critical thinking

I recognise this may not be a very critically thought out statement or question but at the moment I am struggling to identify the difference between post modern approaches to issues and critical thinking. PM talks about questioning many basic assumptions, truth, our ability to assume or project answers to issues due to cultural formation issues, reader response and interpretation etc, but surely there is little difference between this and good critical thinking. I was always very skeptical of people asking if post modernity was real, but I am wondering if we more accurate in thinking in the shift as critical or (hyper or an extension of) modernity as wouldn’t critical thinking have it roots and be shaped by the science movement like modernity?

From Dave in South Africa

Hello from an internet cafe in Cape Town!

We have arrived safely and are settling in well. The people are extremely welcoming and great fun. We have already enjoyed a Braai (traditional South African BBQ) and I have begun to learn to play dominos. I wasn’t very good but provided plenty of comedy moments for our hosts!

Yesterday we were shown around Elsies River, the township where we are staying. We visited the local health centre, an advice centre, an AIDS hospice and some of the rougher areas where the gangs operate. It was a real eye opener. So many people and so few services and resources.

We are living with an old lady called Aunty Rose. She has been very welcoming and is good fun. She reminds Isla of her gran! She has some interesting stories about living under apartheid and enlightening political views which she shares often!!

We have met some of the young people which was fun. I’m not sure what they make of us, I think it will take them a while to get used to these weird British folk who have suddenly turned up. One of them asked if we kew David Beckham! There are a lot of issues which make an impact on their lives. Alcohol and drug abuse is common. The gang culture is sometimes looked up to and admired. There are lots of local ‘Shebeens’, which are basically informal (and illegal) bars that sell alcohol and drugs. Some young people use these. The parents in the church are very concerned about the possibility of their kids getting involved in this stuff (last week a church member’s son stabbed another lad and killed him). They also have high hopes that we can input something useful which is very flattering but very daunting!

Well. It’s still early days so we’ll have to keep watching, learning, praying etc. For now though we are feeling welcomed and at home and are enjoying this adventure!

Please pray for us, that we’ll know how to repond to the needs of the church and community and that we’ll discover what it is that we can offer to our new friends!

Written by Dave but posted by Richard

Tides of life

Hectic week of half term. Dads taxi service clocked up an unusual amount of miles with children having parties to go to, sleep overs, days at mates houses and a trip to see the great Wallace and G. In all busy but satisfying half term. It was good to catch up with friends over lunch and spend time doing what the children wanted. Looking back it was good to make the effort to fit in with other peoples schedules, to let the children take a lead in the agenda of the week, but at the time seemed much of life was out of control and quite stressful.

Blog something new?

In recentre I was wondering out loud if the new centre of culture or western meta-narrative was popular culture itself. PG

commented on how scary a thought this could be which in turn reminded me of the Thoreau quote below, that I use when doing stuff on spiritual disciplines.

“when our life ceases to be inward and private, conversation degenerates into mere gossip. We rarely meet a man who can tell us any news which he has not read in a newspaper or been told by a neighbour; and for the most part the only difference between us and our fellow is that he has seen the newspaper or been out to tea and we have not. In proportion as our inward life fails we go more constantly and desperately to the post office. You may depend on it that the poor fellow who walks away with the greatest number of letters proud of his extensive correspondence has not heard from himself in a long while.”
Henry Thoreau

I wondered about a rephrasing

“when our life ceases to be inward and private, conversation degenerates into mere gossip. We rarely meet a man who can tell us anything genuinely new about God or the world; and for the most part the only difference between us and our fellow is that he has been surfing blog-sphere and we have not. In proportion as our inward life fails we go more constantly and desperately to the computer. You may depend on it that the poor fellow who walks away with the longest blog roll, proud of his extensive list of links has not heard from himself in a long while.” (adapted from Henry Thoreau)

The mere act of rephrasing this is ironical and forces me back to re-look at my walk before God.

Maturity without Membership

In order to prepare for growth and outreach Chard Baptist are looking at Purpose Driven church, one of the principles of which is membership. This raises several issues for me. Membership in itself is not something I am fully confident about and whilst I understand many of the arguments, the approach to membership as we enter post Christendom seems all the more problematic.

How do you begin to grow towards maturity without membership? Murry in The church after Christendom offers a great critique of Matt 18 v 15-17

15″If your brother sins against you, go and show him his fault, just between the two of you. If he listens to you, you have won your brother over. 16But if he will not listen, take one or two others along, so that ‘every matter may be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses.’17If he refuses to listen to them, tell it to the church; and if he refuses to listen even to the church, treat him as you would a pagan or a tax collector.

Whilst I accept the possible intended use of the language of tax collector/pagan to signify an outsider, it is interesting that this is only one of two times the bible actually places the word church on Jesus’ lips. I would want to explore the creative tension that verse 17 throws up as we begin to consider how Christ would have treated tax collectors or pagans. Murry points this out but I would want to push this issue towards a maturity without membership, that does admonish one another in a non dislocating way, and uses the process well to reaffirm core beliefs so the whole community matures, but does not exile people who disaggree.

Taking Youth Work Seriously

The Occasion “Creating Memories” that happened on October the 8th was a FANTASTIC event. The feedback was great. You find out just how good people said it was here Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban movies

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as well as some of the peoples notes and powerpoints from workshops.
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The feedback forms were great with 96% of the 115 people who completed a form saying they would recommend The Occasion to a friend and the other 4% was a maybe.
Lunch was at a local Chinese restaurant and all in all it was an occasion to be remembered. (excuse the double pun) Lori also put up a toilet at the top of the stairs for people to graffeti with the names of the youth groups they had been involved with over the years.
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Bookmark the website www.tyws.org.uk if you are in the south west so you don’t miss out on the next one!

RE-Centre

Sorry for the confussion Phil.
What I wondered or questioned is many people say due to post modernity there is no overarching meta narrative but I was questioning this assumption and think the metanarrative may have been replaced with a new overarching story that is mosaic of popular culture. eg in the past people found their place by how they related to the meta narrative of the time and now people find their place in relation to pop culture, ie we use it to help us interact with one another, people define themselves by the latest produce or band or music they adhere to. So whilst the metanarrative is less clear there is commonality to it. Does that make sense?

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Where is the Centre?

Thinking more about effect of post Christendom church and mission, I think finding the new centre of our culture will be important. As the meta narrative (overarching story or worldview) has been lost the question is what has replaced it. Currently I think it has been replaced by interactions with popular culture and so in true post modern style there is no single centre but a centre that is formed by a collage of people interacting through popular culture. So the idea of Sunday papers as a metaphor for church fits well.

I was discussing this with some guys on the train back from London. They don’t know each other but often travel together as they get on and off at the same station, often their conversation centres around what is the news or papers that day. More on this another day but my battery is about to die.

Ideas on where the centre of culture is now, greatly received

Rules Rule?

Structures, traditions and institutions are all examples of rules. Most of the church today appear to be very happy with rules, they appear to create a certain level of health in the church. You can even measure the results of programmes and see how well these structures perform – just the same as a well run business.

However, Pentecost and the outpouring of the Holy Spirit was, in some way or another, an emergence of a new era of life in which the opportunity to have a renewed spirit that could drive a holy life. This was a step change away from the law, which could not bring life, but only death.

This was a move away from the inflexible law to flexible love, as demonstrated by Christ on, probably, many a Sabbath.

Laws, rules, routines, traditions and structures cannot provide the most optimised lives. A great example is the speed limit: Within a 30mph limit there are places where it would be unbelievable lunacy to travel through a give way junction, corner or a roundabout at 30mph, in other places, where there are no risks of the presence of unexpected other road users it seems to be an unnecessary task to do 30mph (please bear in mind that I am in no way promoting the breaking of the speed limit – we should obey the laws of the land unless God specifically calls us otherwise!). Similarly how can meeting on a Sunday at 10:30am week in, week out be an optimal solution? Why should a hymn sandwich reliably provide an intimate experience of God’s love? (or whatever it is supposed to provide)

What is great about rules is that they can embody hundreds or thousands of years of wisdom – that’s a whole lot more wisdom than your average Joe Bloggs. Because of this, society seems to flourish in the presence of a well developed system of law and social etiquette. To prove this general truth we note that in societies where law and order have broken down you tend to see a lot of injustice, poverty, violence etc.

Now, what scares the church about the idea of life without rules? Well, the same things as society really: injustice, exploitation, abuse, hurt, etc. You just have to see the evidence of antinomianism to ‘prove’ that laws and rules are an absolute necessity for the church.

…But hang on a minute, why does a lack of rules mean that we are going to descend into anarchic mayhem? What kind of tragic Christians descend into the pit of iniquity just because they lack a rule book? Aren’t Christians supposed to have love? Isn’t love supposed to be stronger than law? Aren’t we supposed to be able to resist the temptations that we are faced with? What kind of Christian believes that God inside isn’t enough to be a better person? Isn’t the community of the church going to moderate our beliefs and behaviours by mechanisms of accountability, discipling resulting from Holy Spirit lead lives?

Or am I missing something?…