FYT start Blogging

Just a note to say Frontier Youth Trust have started a blog, it will be piloted for a while and then reviewed, so please visit and drop us a comment either just to say hi or if you think it will be worthwhile to comment. The posts will come from various team members, Dave Wiles, Nigel Pimlott, Ruth Corless (who is heading it up) Myself, Jo Fitzsimmons, and Pete Hope (although he likes to think he is a bit of a luddite) so the content will be mixed but all around mission with young people at risk. We hope it will be a way of extending our ethos of working with young people at risk towards justice, equality and community; we are a Christian network dedicated to advancing the Kingdom of God and growing ourselves.
I have just started a series exploring Values led mission and would value any feed back.

A third confessional perspective.

At the moment I have a three sided mirror in which to reflect on some big questions about change and the nature of the christian message. I am reading Phillip Davies Whose bibe is it anyway for my post grad in practical theology, Reading Pete Rollins The fidelity of betrayal and the third mirror is my own practice side of church on the edge driven by the missiology developed over the past decade or so. All which are provoking me to look deeper at the meta-narrative I think the christain faith and Biblical text carry and the implications for mission.

Davies discusses the nature/approaches of biblical criticism and argues that there are esentially two perspectives, confessional (coming from a theological/faith perspective which he also uses emic, Bible studies and Scripture to differetate those who see the Bible as canon) or non confessional (coming from a humanist perspective where he also used the terms etic, biblical studies and non canonical). His typeology is good and useful but I find his understanding of the confessional perspective (a kind of fundemental/literalist to liberal) limted and dated.

From my third confessional perspective (which I would say borrows from modern emerging church perspectives that in themselves also borrow from traditions although reframed, post modern theory, and mission encounters) sees faith about the redemptive processes that consistantly ruptures our worldview (inc our faith paradigm) and is a series of revolutionary moves

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that form and shape a new (at the time) but growing (in hindsight) understanding of God.

So I have no qualms about Davies exegisis of texts as they may help us with the rupture, indeed I approach Biblical studies with this mind (part of the third confessional perspective) and may even argue that this is why we have the text, however Davies would argue that confessional perpectives limit. I would agree when looking at narrow confessional perspectives and that there is a danger of this within the third, but I would argue that biblical criticism from the third perspective more in line with etic approaches than the emic as it demands a rigour and openess that could even beyond a humanist perspective as this a truth understanding that may be less open than the third confessional perpective.

Rollins in both the fidelity of betrayal and how not to speak of God goes someway to underline both the need for a third confessional perspective (although he doesnt use the term) and identifies and develops (particularly in fidelity of betrayal) the perspective as he reflects on the place and notions of truth held within/by the historic confessional perspectives.

Davies exergesis of Abraham in chapter 5 Male bonding leads him conclude “there are no historical or theological truths that need to be won from this, only the wisdom and experience of the tellers.” and the writer may be suggesting that god is much like politican that makes promises that change, and not to be trusted, and that we shoud hold these lightly, esentially that neither Abraham or Yhwh are what they are cracked up to be. So what Davies does is very consistant with a third confessional perspective perhaps even biblical evidence for this perspective, and supports how Rollins develops the perpective as the God we know cannot be G-d as G-d is beyond, more etc.

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Commitment and new monastics

James posts some good stuff on commitment and the link to contemplative faith and covenant. Whilst I agree with issues of faith communities needing time listen stuff BUT (borrowing from Petes new book) I wonder if some of the approaches in the new monastics that the current idea of commitment to one another is an idea we need to betray in order to discover something new. We assume covenant is a two way street, and so enter into covenant relationships with those in our faith circle (I recognise that for many this also has a service to the world element) but have questions on this.
Is the centrally of covenant to one another within (however you define this) a return towards closed set models. Does this investment towards others in church/covenant

return to a weak ecceliosiology that again separates missio-dei or annexes mission to a project or task. If Gods covenant was to the world not the church and the church was the way of fleshing out that covenant post Jesus, how do we enter into covenant with the world as the central element, recognising that we need one another to help with this.Naked Weapon movie full


I was chatting yesterday Iain about stories that break the narrative and creating fissures in the christendom/ corrupted christian worldview. Thinking about how both pressure from within and outside can help open the cracks up. However over the years there have often been stories that oppose the establishment eg anabaptist but cant get away from the thought that lots of people see the need to paste over the cracks hence the slow pace of change.Definitely, Maybe dvdrip

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